It was the elders failure. I remember that too. I had, of course, people from Harvest who had heard it, sending me sending me clips. . to Rick Donald. To donate, Lead Pastor and Exec Team of ARC Megachurch Resign Amid Allegations of Bullying and Financial Misconduct, EXCLUSIVE: Dozens Say ARC Megachurch Pastor Bullied and Shamed Staff, Volunteers, James MacDonald Preaching at ARC Megachurch in Arizona, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. And most of them, a number of them, Ill say, have not read any of these letters. Again, only you and Mike Dunwoody, did that publicly. I wrote back to her, and I apologized to her. I would listen to MacArthur, Piper and Macdonald on a regular basis. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Theres still one more thing I want to ask about. Then, referencing his arbitration with Harvest, in which he won about $2.5 million, along with all digital and physical assets of Walk in the Word, MacDonald writes: When we won the arbitration and regained access to our teaching ministry, it was in shambleslike a model plane that had flown so beautifully, being returned with report of a crash, when in reality an envious child had dashed it against the rocks just out of sight.. And I was just, it was entertaining, you know, on one level, but on the other level, just absolutely tragic. And that would have been right before you came back on the board. But its a story that needs to be toldand rememberedgiven that MacDonald is trying to relaunch his ministry in Chicago. Yes, yeah, there were a number of people. I just knew the Lord made it clear I had to do it. You do that, and hope that the person will repent, and that they will turn and that therell be restoration. I stepped into a conference room. He further claims Harvests elders crafted false accusations against him as a pure act of vindictiveness to cover the churchs looting of his former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word. Thanks! And and again, I got out of this like so unbelievably easily. If youd like to find me online, just go to Julieroys.com. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. He had joined, I think a year into, into Harvests history. 2011 NIV. So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. Not all he said was false because then it would have been obvious to any discerning Christian. And that reminded me of something that Dan Marquardt told me. Is that how it went down? In June, Visconti also posted a picture of him and his wife with James MacDonald and his wife. We had a group of Pastors who interviewed him and he gave us free tickets to his Straight Up conference. There would be no Roys Report without Judson University. And if I can give you a context, where I was in my thought process, in that. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. Hi. I dont know how many people had heard of it. Had they reached all the elders at this point? And from the video that he recorded with James, it sounds like the spin is that James was actually guilty. According to an independent audit of Harvest Bible Chapel, disgraced celebrity pastor, James MacDonald, siphoned off millions in church funds to support his lavish lifestyle. You did you have any idea that that this was out there, and might get aired? And I remember being in the meeting thinking, I cant believe were arguing about this. You dont know how I got ahold of them. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. No one takes joy in doing this. According to The Elephant's Debt (TED), a blog critical of MacDonald that launched in the summer of 2012, MacDonald was then taking a salary over $500,000, and living on a $1.9 million estate. Church, Ministry News Thanks for for standing up for what was right. James MacDonald and His Earlier Attacks on Julie Roys. And we talk about that Scripture and quote it over and over again. Thank you for taking the stand that you did. Its a reference to sex magik and the leaders have given a hat tip to their god right in the church name. And this is when everything really started happening. How can we approve this? Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And we already know the answer: the men are in charge no matter what and despite their failings and abuses. I think of the timing, I think it was earlier that day, that I actually I sent I had sent Sandys letter out, because Sandy sent, she addressed her letter to the elder board. And I remember talking to another elder and I looked at him, he was almost in tears, saying, I cant believe were not going to do what Gods word says. Marquardt is a Buick GMC dealership where you can expect honesty, integrity and transparency. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. Julie, thank you for your excellent work in exposing that which is done in darkness, among the body of Christ. And I know it was a battle. And her being in my house and literally shaking as shes recounting. We dont know what it would look like tomorrow. And I actually requested the letter from Sandy, because Sandy had shared some things with us about what she had seen. If theres other passages we should be talking about, lets talk about them. When I did not immediately respond, MacDonald tweeted I had declined his invitation, which I did not. And Dean Butters letter came in that way as well. Leslie said: Julie Roys is a Christian investigative reporter who has called out some big names, and she has suffered for it. I mean, again, it was a meeting into the wee hours of the night, early morning. Search my early tweet history. And all of the elders should resign and repent for what they did. And I read all these verses, and we were talking about it. "I was sitting in the back seat. Dan currently is an executive and leadership coach and the founder of Front Seat Leadership. But But I remember saying to the guys, listen, heres the passages Ive been studying. So lets move on to these letters. I think he might have and the reason I say that is that weekend, so you know, here we are on Tuesday, Tuesday, the fifth. And theres Ephesians 5 about exposing the unfruitful works of darkness having nothing to do with those. And my job was to get it to fellow elder board. James McDonald recently did a video with Ron Duitsman, as you said, former chairman of the elder board, where he claims this was all part of a campaign by Dallas Jenkins, whos a former executive leadership team member at Harvest. But would he have been able to save face do you think? The elder board of Harvest Bible Chapel formally apologized to independent journalist Julie Roys and several former members, months after joining founder James MacDonald in a defamation lawsuit accusing them of publishing false information about the church's management and finances last fall. And you couldnt be accused of disseminating them to the larger public. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Hed been the senior pastor the whole time. That was a very common part of how Harvest approached things like that. I thought the weight was dealing with everything else in there was a weight, but that was the weight. Because it was still a time when many elders were not admitting any of the wrongs that they had done. I think of a few things Julie. pretty rotten.. Later that night, or first thing you know, into the wee hours of the next morning, the communication was out to the people of Harvest, and it was over. And I thought, well, I got to read the letter. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. The Asbury Revival Is Over. And thats got to be a heavy. 1) Julie Roys. Were just talking a minute ago, you know, the emotion and the weight and the relief and the sadness, and all those things are true. Do you expect ANYONE to say yes to your question. A strong woman with a weak husband will become a toxic woman. Yeah. So they have no idea what they really these, the elder board was large and had no idea really who James MacDonald was, am I right? Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. And why do you do it in front of everybody? We are so embarrassed and disgusted by his gross actions in the last 30 years. Five of the six have been published. How about that one? Ive listened to the entire recording. Prominent evangelical scholar, author, and missiologist, Ed Stetzer, is leaving his position as executive director of Wheaton Colleges The Billy Graham Center, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation, An Arizona megachurch has hired Landon MacDonald as a lead pastor, despite allegations MacDonald bullied and abused those in his care while. And I had already written back to Executive Committee Chairman at the time and said, we cannot say unconditional support. Wow! It was a large elder board. Thats what the weight was. . So its critically important that the truth be told. And I checked my voicemail. And I dont know what his exact words were, but it was basically dont you dare read scripture to me. On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . So Im deeply grateful for their faithful support. Theres 30 men in the room. This wasnt anything else. And I thought, Oh, my gosh! And I turned to Scripture, and I went to Psalm 32, where you know, the companion to Psalm 51, where Davids writing. And everyone who stayed just drank the Kool-Aid. I felt physically sick reading the letter. Visconti wins the Internet! Whoever said the dumbest thing had to take off an, Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a pattern of sinful behavior, James MacDonald is preaching at Generation. I mean, here he is in Haiti, thats just been wracked by an earthquake, unbelievable poverty and devastation. So I asked the other elders, I said, I need to repent. And this still disheartens me, because the people of Harvest, who we were supposed to be overseeing at that point, we were silent on that weekend, because we couldnt come to an agreement about what we would do. And I remember a comment being made. Very sad situation for James and the elders as well. In the area (a south metro suburb of Minneapolis, MN ), that's just the average cost of a house. Sandy talked about over the years, other staff members coming to her after meeting with James McDonald in tears, just crushed. Okay. I agree. H arvest Bible Chapel and founding pastor James MacDonald have announced that they plan to drop their lawsuit against The Elephant's Debt bloggers and Julie Roys after a court today denied. And again, Im going from memory, but also from what Ron Duitsman recently said. Yeah Cynthia. What Happens Now? Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. If the church wants to regulate marriage, let them say you cant get remarried in their church if you are already married in the eyes of the church. So that tells you something about the backbone and the integrity of Dan Marquardt. She declined. Should have that should have been enough of enough of a clue for me to say, Wait, wait, wait, thats a check. Voice of James MacDonald Believed to Be Featured in Vulgar Comments. So Rick was in the meeting, as were others, and they were defending saying the elders should not have the letters. The Roys Report reached out to MacDonald with questions about the email, which he would not answer on the record. The leaders were brought together. The Asbury Revival Is Over. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. I did not. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. The Roys Report is a Christian media outlet, reporting the unvarnished truth about what's happening in the Christian community so the church can be reformed and restored. Well, and I remember, I remember this whole thing, because Im getting bits and pieces from different sources about whats going on and whats happening. He is not a pastor. Julie, are you saying that you support trans mutilation/murder of pre-born children/and are against conservatives? I also dont believe girls (or boys) have to like certain colors or behave and dress in certain ways to be real girls/boys. How about it James McDonald and John MacArthur (and the like), how about it? So this is going to be a fascinating podcast. However, you did sign a letter of unconditional support. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. And there were a number in the room who were looking at I Timothy 5, thats for those who persistence sin rebuke them in the presence of all so that the rest may stand in fear. But, I dont believe I have ever heard anyone say in any of these posts, husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her. A man of God who just wanted to take a vacation with his family, has the right to use church money which is his only source of income. I wish Id never done it. He would probably be wildly successful. TED also reported that MacDonald's church Harvest Bible Chapel was $65 million in debt. And we were at an absolute stalemate. And I just remember my first feeling, you know, just honestly, relief. But it was at this point that I started to reach out to Harvest and really seeking their comment on some of the things that I had heard. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? It was a battle in the natural but more than that, there was a spiritual battle going on then, and I think its still going on now. Im gonna put it up on my Facebook page, on my blog. We brought up several things from the letters with James McDonald that night, and he was just dismissing everything we brought up. Rick Donald said that that would make us the judge, the elders, if we had the letter. So Rick had been there 29 plus years. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. And whats so tough in this whole thing is that there are wolves among the sheep. And I remember, Julie, I was in that meeting that Tuesday night. Opinion: What is Revivaland is it Happening at Asbury? Great! Christians should stop feeding these people. She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. And marital and sexual satisfaction plummet., We are meant to set aside power and authority and serve one another (Matthew 20:25-28) as we are partnered together (Ecclesiastes 4:9-12), Gregoire added. Ill write a statement. Hes not qualified. . Thats even though MacDonalds former megachurch, Harvest Bible Chapel, disqualified MacDonald from public ministry in 2019 for a pattern of sinful behavior.. Those are simply other examples of posts about controversial issues. ( was spent) That seems pretty straightforward. And she immediately said, Ill write a letter. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. Yeah, I can share some of it. Mine havent offered any blessings, but at least they havent eaten my extremities while I sleep. And I, the next day, I wrote and said, Well, okay, I respect your wishes. Ill tell you one thing, Julie. You know, theres, I would say, round two, but I my guess is there were lots of small rounds in there, of people being silenced and bringing charges and, and the board looking the other way. Thats a Tuesday night. *Correction: A previous version of this story incorrectly reported that Visconti and Generation Church had deleted their social media accounts. MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. Dan, thank you for being a humble man of God. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? But he said even the way said that he said, we got out of that meeting, we looked at each other. Theres no joy in doing this. I payed for you and James. Now, now James is saying, oh, Mancow edited this to say something that it really didnt say. Very loyal to James McDonald. You really didnt know at that point, whether he was going to get fired, or resign, or what was going to happen until Mancow Muller aired those vulgar excerpts from this hot mic recording that James McDonald didnt know he was on mic. Whats wrong with Visconti supporting Kari Lake or speaking out against abortion or transgenderism? And again, youre one of the people who actually apologized for that. That was really wrongdoing at Harvest, would be to repent. I remember sitting on my couch waiting to press the button to publish it. So far, I feel the leadership of my current church embodies this well. . No One Knows. Only Gods opinion is what counts. Welcome to The Roys Report, a podcast dedicated to reporting the truth and restoring the church. As I saw it, this letter of unconditional support was a huge and somewhat desperate PR move on James MacDonalds part, to say, hey, look, all our leaders stand with us, I must be okay. Gosh she is just filthy with gossip as fact and at very best half the story. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. However, an email that I got, that Duitsman had sent out and then it was leaked to me, said that what Duitsman was upset about was the fact that the elders were admitting that they had failed. And I got it. Also, if youre in the market for a car, I encourage you to check out my friends at Marquardt of Barrington. Just saying a lot of vile things. You disseminated down to the elders, and then that became really the sticking point for James, wasnt it? Great! I said, I will confess my transgression to the Lord, and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Thats about my attitude lately. MacDonald notes in the email that about a month after the settlement, he was able to write to recipients of the email. On Thursday, Im in a meeting with him where honestly, Julie, they were trying to convince me and the other elders in the room that hadnt been in previous meetings to let him resign. Would you consider making a tax-deductible donation to help our journalists continue to report the truth and restore the church? And there is one thing we know about Satan. But that is my hope. After you guys. She was a late comer to those of us who had been exposing MacD for a long time. No One Knows. And and Im still feeling it and Im still hearing from people. On that Haiti trip. This story saddens me. And there were meetings on Wednesday, where James McDonald was informed of the decision of the elder board. Yet another American megachurch is immersed in accusations of wrongdoings. Im sad for his fall. He was the second longest tenured pastor at Harvest. If you read his letter, he was going to publish his letter. Honestly dont to this day. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. Despite being disqualified from public ministry by his former megachurch for a "pattern of sinful behavior," James MacDonald is preaching at Generation Churchan Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch in Mesa, Arizona. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. So Rick was, in effect, the Assistant senior pastor. And youre going to hear all about what happened in those meetings and the strong arm tactics that McDonald used to try and get his way. And I just felt this incredible weight. There was a spirited discussion of the letters and who should be able to read the letters. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. Like Tullian Tchvidjian, he would be a great salesman. John MacArthur, for example, has preached, Scripture does not automatically permit divorce in the case of a physically abusive husband. Instead, MacArthur urges abused wives not to provoke any circumstances that will make your husband become violent. But if he continues to be abusive, The wife should remove herself from danger by fleeing the home if necessary.. Whats the point of arguing the point, you know, like, okay, youre gonna say you dont remember that part. It was demonic. And I want to help people lead the church well. And so when they started arguing the process, I was just like, Oh, my gosh, thats what were just gonna talk about the process. I knew letters were coming to the elder board per First Timothy 5. It was a four hour meeting. The ministry is growing, we should expect to be attacked. It does. The Roys Report seeks to foster thoughtful and respectful dialogue. And the demands that James McDonald made to try to go home a day early. He was the senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel megachurch in Rolling Meadows, Illinois, United States [1] [2] and was the host for the church's former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word . No, Julie Roys did not open the hood on James MacDonald, although she in her own hubris would like her audience to think that. While we were doing that, I was in my office at home. Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Part II, Understanding & Overcoming Spiritual Abuse, Escaping & Healing from Abusive Churches, Part 2. #JRgossipslut James MacDonald (@jamesmacdonald) June 15, 2021 What really caused Harvest Bible Chapel to fire James MacDonald? But the other letters, my understanding is they came in, and youre in a meeting with the other elders. If hes ok with lies, that calls into question everything he preaches. Although as soon as, pretty much after Mancow aired it. It was one of the big red flags to me, or I guess it was a yellow flag could have been a red flag, I wouldnt have done it. The way James MacDonald is said to have treated others while pastor of Harvest and the way he behaves on Twitter dont seem to be in keeping with the way the New Testament says we should behave. Thank you. 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