Like, Kindly reply to this message by Thursday. Not something thats going to ruin my day or anything, but you could just ask me to do the thing, and Ill do the thing, because Im a professional adult who works hard to meet my obligations. The original poster sounds like an arrogant primadonna. If the question has been asked, I will answer it. Often times, I presented with a lot of data that I dont know what to do with it. PLease advise wouldnt set me off if it were in the context of we have looked at XY and Z what is your take? Instead, we head to a conference room for almost all phone calls. time. One comment noted that please advise can be the equivalent of a punt: Heres this crappy thing Ive been trying to deal with. Its a little different with messages to customers/clients, of courseyou end up using more formality there. I dont mind it. I tend to agree, yet, I can have a hard time applying this idea sometimes. })(window, document); 2023 TextRanch, LLC. Maybe thats a little too informal for some places, but it generally works for me. Thats exactly how it strikes me. And a section called the hazards of over thinking. Ill use Please advise when forwarding a question from one party to another when I dont know what question needs to be asked. s.src = "https://cdn.iubenda.com/iubenda.js"; You can see something similar pretty often in discussions about works of fiction. so once they agree to speak, i send the email to all the speakers with all the additional tasks, and say thank you in advance, as an acknowledgement of all the things i just told them to do. Maybe Im doing it all wrong, but it works for us. Now, someone in IT has figured out how to make all emails related to a conversation *poof* from the entire email network when something like this happens, so nobody has the email anymore to reply to all. EmilyG, can you reboot the X server because it appears to be down and I need to work on Y. TIA! was reasonable enough. Back-office folks are often out of touch with what client relationships mean. +1. I bet these are the same thrifty people who are saving their turn signals for some special occasion. Such a pet peeve of mine! To help you find the right words when you need them here are 20 great expressions for closing an email. That one really irritates me too. FWIW, the overuse of the word like is probably the most annoying Americanism. Do they tend to throw you under the bus? (FWIW, I was hired for job X and ended up doing job Y much more time consuming, and punching well above my pay grade because the work is a PITA, and I didnt know any better. Oh man, Im on several listserves and several times a year someone requests a document, people flood inboxes with emails that say literally, please post and me too and thats it. If I put FYI instead, they know they dont need to reply to me. My peeve is no subject line Our HR generalist pretty much NEVER uses one in her all-employee emails, and often her emails are just a pdf with no explanation of their content (usually a flyer of some event) so I have to download it to see if its anything at all relevant to me. Well, except when someone isnt responding. But I do thank them afterwards too. There was pretty much no correct response you could give. This answer is: Hide . Uh oh. If you'd prefer to cancel your membership placed through Shipt by contacting our customer support team, you can call our dedicated line at (205) 259-7798 between 8 am - 8 pm CT. . Payment will be expected in 48hours, if you wish to cancel your purchase, please let me know in this timeframe. or Request you to note the dates and let us know way forward. I love it! if you so wish. Far better then the AI tools", This website is fantastic. I live in the south. please give me your knowledge so I can stop feeling stupid. Then is it natural to say "Let me know when best suits you?" See a translation 1 like oldgeezer 17 Jul 2017 Another is when I get an email that contains only call me. At my job, theres generally a designated admin on the approved senders list. I used to have to deal extensively with someone brusque, arrogant, demanding, and (based on her emails) borderline illiterate, and she regularly used plz advise. Those additional three keystrokes were apparently just a bridge too far for her. There's no difference in meaning, but the former is a bit formal and the latter is more common and informal in everyday speech. The only times it does, its not because of the phrase, its because of the person using the phrase. If you have met with the hiring manager and feel good about the role and your candidacy, and you prefer one company over the other, the reach out to the hiring manager immediately. I dont see anything wrong withplease advise. I reserve it for instances in which Im not explicitly asking a question and want to signal that I need a response/guidance. But it does feel like theres a need to end the email with what youre looking for. Friendly reminder is bad too. 0. When I have a good relationship with someone and see please advise, I think nothing of it. I dont intend to sound bratty or condescending when I use it, I just have trouble finding a closer and email etiquette says that I should every. And then there are of course the people who reply all to say, hey, it will be posted, stop asking and then the inevitable please remove me from this list.. *taps foot*. Please advise. I suspect part of the reason for our culture being this way is that we have a fairly open floorplan, so if we were to routinely talk at our desks, it would be disruptive. When my employees come to me, I want them to come with solutions or ideas, not just problems. So now it causes a twitch when others use it, but I know its all on me. ", Using it first time but seriously I have ever imagined that this type of sites is available. But I think thats why he did it. 0. . When I get one from someone who is difficult or needy, I definitely do a bitch eating crackers face at the email. Very special me. Iris. There are a handful of people at work who use this on every.single.email. Not all jobs are client-facing however, so it may not be appropriate for all industries. There are just so many styles and approacheswithout tone, its really not worth getting upset over. Sometimes I have no idea how else to end an email that indicates that I need an answer and whatever Im doing cant move forward without it. One of their common email closings was, Please advise of the needful. Can you give me an update on registration s.src = "https://cdn.iubenda.com/iubenda.js"; I have been wondering how people bold or italicize here for ages, lol. Lowest prices Up to 50% lower than other online editing sites. As if Im a) too stupid to understand her and b) need to be asked or apparently I would have otherwise not said anything if I didnt understand??? Author: Douglas I lay out the problem and then ask for advice. It just comes off as sort of short to me, especially when there are . Why do we write it in emails? I always wondered if one person at the third office really liked the phrase, and everyone just followed her lead. She did not understand what I was talking about. 8. EllieH Me too. = Question Please tell me where you WENT. There are a lot of things that I wish someone would have told me about at the very beginning especially email etiquette. Clearly Im gong to advise you dont tell me how to do my job. So I just describe the situation as briefly and clearly as I can and say something like please advise or Id appreciate your thoughts on this or Id really appreciate your help (leaving with the above nightmare unstated!). I am in change management and I ruffle enough feathers. I was already going to do the needful. I wouldnt mind that at all. Its not unreasonable to say that stuff, except for Can I ask you a question? because (a) YOU JUST DID, and (b) I am categorically unallowed to tell you you cant ask! No one is demanding that you stop holding up an important project more like, I would like to take my break today at 5 instead of 6. you are reacting to i require when its being used as i need. Id go for something like, Id appreciate your help in this matter. I require has a very different feel to me from I need I require implies that dang it, I need this and you better give it to me. I remember coming in that morning to 600+ emails and nearly had a heart attack. This additional time is also helpful when you have more interviews scheduled with companies that interest you. A complete search of the internet has found these results: Please let me know which one you preferis the most popular phrase on the web. Request you to note the dates and let us know the way forward. And I never, ever, raised an issue or sent an email to that manager again. where a I truly dont know what to do, please help me is completely warranted. The third is forward yet subduednot a bad option, honestly. It is a way of warning people to stay in the order they came. I explained it a third time, very slowly, and very carefully. assigning women extra work to help them, calling out when youre in the ER, and more. The phrase that drives me right up the wall is please do the needful. In the end, because she was unable to understand the issue I went to speak to the owner of the business, who immediately sent out an email clarifying the parking procedure. Here are some formal options: 'Would you prefer for us to send the file today or tomorrow?' 'Please tell me whether you would like the file sent today or tomorrow.' 'Is it preferable for the file to be sent today or tomorrow?' 'Please contact us in regards to the preferred delivery date of the file. When I see it, I interpret it as, I dont expect you to have any objections or questions to this, so the next thing I should be sending you is my thanks to you for letting me know its done, and Im just going to get that out of the way right now. I make allowances in my head for the possibility that the sender doesnt actually mean that, but I always give a little mental grrr when I see it. I resent our new hires for setting better work-life boundaries than our company normally has, hairy legs at work, my office sent me a random TV, and more, heres an example of a great cover letter with before and after versions, my employee cant handle even mildly negative feedback, my new coworker is putting fake mistakes in my work so she can tell our boss Im bad at my job, insensitive Diversity Day, how to fire someone who refuses to talk to us, and more, weekend open thread February 25-26, 2023, assistant became abusive when she wasnt invited to a meeting, my coworkers dont check on people who are out sick, and more. Erm, your phone doesnt make outbound calls? If you are the disadvantaged party, this is what can we do to make you happy? If youre not, this is what are you going to do for me?. The opposite way is: knoweldgabley explain something factual and then use make sense? to see if the other person is following you. Get it corrected in a few minutes by our editors. So, I figured, maybe Im explaining this badly. Some people are more formal than others. var loader = function () { You may think please advise is bratty, but the person sending it may think they are just being professionally neutral. 2. How do you feel about emails that say, Just wanted to let you know that blah blah blah.? Answer (1 of 21): It's grammatically fine but meaningless. the people who are secretly working multiple full-time jobs from home, future manager is a bigoted jerk, boss hasnt paid me back, and more, weekend open thread February 18-19, 2023. Ok, whoops. I will assume its friendly if you say just a reminder. It just seems more polite. Especially if Im just showing up to help a busy desk (I work at a public library), it seems a lot more annoying to just plonk down behind the station and stare expectantly at the line until someone comes over to me. We have enjoyed serving you for the past five years. "Please let me know when a good time would be - to meet - to talk - to have lunch" Or "Please let me know when would b. That irritates me too. Research indicates, however, that including "don't know" options actually produces more problems than it solves. I then give background on my question. Like, if Im asking my manager a question, Id say Hey manager, this is the thing thats happening, what do you want me to do with that? but if I was emailing the CEO with a variety of other senior staff copied, Id say Here is the situation please advise. I could see how it might seem snotty when used in a situation that doesnt call for it, like youre being faux respectful. should I tell the truth in my exit interview? (2) I dont know what to do and Im making it your problem. It has been an awesome way to improve my English skills. ;). Possibly in red Killer font. I dont use it all the time but will use it occasionally when she has dropped the ball again and pulled a Charlie Brown* on us. Any help would be . Ive worked in three different offices, and this phrase was used by nobody at two of them, and then by virtually everybody at the third one. I also use it infrequently. On the other hand, if you want a laugh (and you don't mind a bit of obscene language), read ScaryDuck's post: A bit of email etiquette. Sometimes on emails its unclear whether its just an FYI or something I need a response on. So efficient. I use Please advise (and have taken it from others in the same grain in which I use it) more along the lines of I am not moving forward with any of this until you have your input on the matter. Maybe Ive been annoying folks all along without even knowing it. I tell myself. She would ask why I hadnt responded or done X yet, and I would say that I didnt know that I needed to. Has Bob accepted yet? (Yes or no) Have you booked that hotel? (Yes or no) How do I save a word file (have you never used a computer before?). Emails were coming in all day long. Satisfaction guaranteed! And grammatically speaking, not all requests for a response have to be phrased as a question. I managed to screw up pretty regularly in the third category, which led to me being pretty gun-shy about replying at all unless I was explicitly asked a question or given an action item. They make my head hurt and I can hardly get through reading them! Ive never heard sleeps in the US. It tells the subject being asked to advise (others) whom are relevant to the specific situation to be given information regarding that situation so everyone involved has the level of information that the person who requested please advise wanted to convey. } else if (w.attachEvent) { One of our experts will correct your English. Let me know if you can. I do appreciate it when people are willing to take context into account, so sometimes an opener that acknowledges, hey, I know youve been working really hard on X so this might have fallen off the radar is appreciated, but I really do want to get you what you need! Its common radio etiquette when you dont want to reveal to everyone on that channel sensitive information regarding your business. Please advise, like a lot of things, is one of those generic polite statements that can become really snarky depending on the context and the person using it. I dont think its such a terrible phrase until someone inevitably writes please advice. I couldnt make the change because the combination of codes that she wanted me to use wasnt allowed. You do not become a priority to him by making him your priority. Consider following us @archetype_origins on Instagram for more content, we post on a regular basis. My bosss boss would end certain emails to me with that phrase. So? It drives me REALLY batty. This person I know says it all the time (All. Heh, I have seen it used that way, now that you mention it. Example Answer #2 I am available to work Monday through Friday, and I am very flexible about the start and end times on those days. BTW, this reminds me of a former peer who frequently signed off with Thanks in advance, or even used her own acronym, TIA! + Read the full interview, I sometimes wonder if my English expressions make sense clearly and TextRanch helps me a lot in such cases. tag.parentNode.insertBefore(s, tag); I am reflecting that the phrase I hate to be a pest, but can also come off as passive aggressive. Both are perfectly fine, use which ever you prefer! Our admin has been sending these long, complicated emails. At other jobs you wouldve gotten some serious side-eye for that phrase. Yes, but plenty of people use it earnestly: as in, hmm, havent heard back hope they didnt forget but dont want to be a nag. It is like personal space. I dealt with a lot of rebate payments at old job and the reason certain accounts might be delinquent/unpaid was due to a variety of reasons such as items not qualifying, reporting problems, contract renegotiation so what I thought was due truly wasnt but I didnt have current documentation on hand, invoices making the report but some sort of tallying error causing a short pay, already paid but reported for the wrong customer, etc. I also cant stand all caps in emails. One of the problems with "Please advise" is that advise is a transitive verb, that is, it must have an object. My last supervisor would copy me on everything, and most times the emails didnt have a question directly related to me so I wouldnt respond. Thank you in advance! I supervise a manager who falsified an employee write-up but I dont think she should be fired, getting out of shared intern housing, why are so many executives condescending, and more, interviewer fake-rejected me to see if I would fight for the job. I cant see anything remotely annoying in the phrase though I dont use it myself. I think we all just laughed and said, Theyll be OK, grandma. Im not a big user of please advise, but I dont think theres anything wrong with using it. I use please advise, but I use it sparingly, usually after I have presented options and just need some help deciding which option would go best for this particular situation. Yeah, its annoying to me for that reason, too. Could you then make a joke out of it but one that also gets across your point that asking that question is wasting your time? Example: Just checking in to see if theres anything else you need from me so you can complete the [thing you havent sent back to me].. Improve your English! Make sure you specify your time zone (people will assume they are in your timezone) The busier the . Interesting. 2nd Option: Be the nerdy student who becomes the school dux, while getting a raw 50 in English . Please Advise.. I use Please advise every so often, and I think I basically use it as a step up from Let me know what you think. Specifically, for Let me know what you think, I would consider a lack of preference an acceptable answer. Me too! Artificial intelligence still cannot do this ! Dont read in meaning or tone that isnt there. Oftentimes even after the actual document has already been shared!! To me the gentle reminder reads as Pease dont be mad at me, but I need to remind you of [xyz]., How about friendly reminder? We dont have a parking procedure. I resisted the urge to bang my head on her desk. If we didn't meet your expectations, we'd really like to know more. Most of the email is explaining the situation, then please advise.. Some people might use this with no intent of being rude. All rights reserved. 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