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)Granted, I think the special effects, space battles, bizarre technology and explosions are the proverbial tail wagging the dog, but thats always been the case, and is increasingly expected in these post-Star Wars, high tech decades. They told us and a handful of other outlets what to expect for their characters and more. Nice girl but still jostling with Burnham as the most annoying character on the show. What do you mean? Having a discussion about healthy weights, healthy eating and physical activity and how thats important is a good Star Trek message. Roddenberrys imprint on Next Gen made the characters not flawed enough for some tastes, granted, but Deep Space Nine, Voyager, and Enterprise have countless examples of human foibles and emotions sure, not to the degree as Discovery, with its ship full of Barclays as one commenter put it, rhetorically. Mack is one of the core group of Trek authors going back to shortly before Nemesis. Yet, she is. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. In the season four finale Coming Home, Mary Wiseman returned as Lt. Tilly, now a Starfleet Academy leader working with cadets and Admiral Vance to coordinate the evacuation and defense of Earth on Federation HQ. While Im excited to get back to the 32nd century and see whats changed since season 3 Im still not excited for the season itself. Its very possible Mary Wiseman wanted off the show, or needed a bit of a break. Not sure what her weight has to do with anything. From what Ive read, having her on the bridge because of her betazed abilities was what Roddenberry had in mind. There are characters you really cherish and others that are fun but ultimately nothing special. And yeah, some of us are coach potatoes, most of us certainly not gold cut supermodels. The entire point of Tillys character is that shes a Starfleet officer that doesnt have to be a supermodel like so many Trek characters before: Troi, Seven, TPol, Jadzia perfect golden cut supermodels. A statistical average does not justify shaming or ridiculing anyone. She strikes me as no different than Barkley. I cant stand any sentence (especially related to DSC) which starts off with Everybody loves Its never true. And tons dont. So sayeth Scotty, the contrarian. So when Tilly became a teacher I was like, freaky coincidence but perfect!). And, in that sense, it is okay to be used as it was above. I suppose thats why some places are rising and others are very visibly in decline. I assume my feelings towards them are what Wesley-haters endure. I know a thing or two about haters-pay no mind. It is not others right to tell someone how their body should be that sort of thing was done with slaves. I wasnt complaining there were therapists on board. Finally, Starfleet isn't a military organisation or an army. Why do you think being nervous or anxious means that you can not graduate from the academy? While Tilly had big dreams in Star Trek: Discovery season 1, she struggled with feelings of inadequacy and was hindered by a social awkwardness that often left her feeling like an outsider. The Klingon redesign was much more than a visual reboot and especially the tech aspects dont fit canon (holographic communication, Klingon cloaking, android bridge crew, easy terraforming, state-of-the-art nanotech, Enterprise battle squad). I KNOW, people say they are great, I was too focused on Star Trek when those were airing, but I might try and give the original show a shot one day. Correct me if I am wrong, but did she not have to take a command course at some point? Between 2011 through 2015, she attended Juilliard School's Drama Division, where one of her students was future Star Trek: Discovery actress Mary Chieffo. Not liking a character doesnt make a person a troll, so Im not even sure what that nonsensical comment was supposed to mean. I guess some people would rather the perfect people of TNG than anyone that mirrors back anything they dont want to see in themselves. 108 comments so far. STAR TREK and its various marks are trademarks of CBS Studios Inc. 2023 CBS Studios Inc./Paramount Pictures Corp. 2006-2023 SciFanatic Network | Legal/Privacy Info, Copyright 2023 | MH Newsdesk by MH Themes, Podcast: All Access Dives Into The Latest Episode Of Picard And Probes Star Treks TV (And Movie) Future, BREAKING: Star Trek: Discovery To Conclude With Season 5, Review: Star Trek: Picard Runs Deep In Seventeen Seconds, Watch Picard And Riker Reverse Their Classic Roles In Star Trek: Picard Episode 303 Clip, J.J. Abrams Talks Compelling Story For Star Trek 4; Chris Pine Expresses Frustration Over Wait, I hope Mary Wiseman is okay or has a good reason for her weight gain since S1. Tons do, yes. Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. I originally was skeptical but then I turned around in season 1 and really started enjoying it. Han Van Sciver and Mary Wiseman in At the Wedding (Photo: Marc J. Franklin), Watch Wiseman and cast and crew talk about the season four finale. I agree! In fact most iterations of Trek the actors have provided a neutral delivery of their native accent. I dont see a repeated notion that DISCO saved Trek by heavily incorporating emotion into their characters. It would make sense if you knew the story ;) Lets just say Jake did write his famous book a couple of years after the end of DS9, but in the years and decades ahead he went on to much bigger things and took his career and his life in a very different direction. With predictive spelling and multiple languages available, incorrect word choice is a constant threat even when one does type in the correct word. As I said Tilly has the same issues. This is why Discovery is polarising and this is why people four seasons in still dislike Burnham and Tilly as characters. Ill never forget when I, a woman of 160# at 58, healthy, deemed fit by military and bodyfat percentage indexes, approached the Credit Union one day, when the guy at the ATM finished his transaction, turned, saw me, and yelled Hey, fatass!. For now, Wiseman is busy starring in the new comedy play At the Wedding at the Lincoln Center Theater in New York. In her interview with TrekMovie last week, Discovery co-showrunner Michelle Paradise echoed these sentiments: Well never be done with Tilly. IMHO, if she usually eats well, trains and commits to staying healthy, then life can be a lot of fun leading an active adventurous life while still enjoying food and fine dining and it is irrelevant what people say about her looks. Fan favourite is a bit of a stretch..quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history She is one of the best things about Discovery. Even 1,000 years into the future, Burham cannotoh well, that is a different story for a different post. I mean, it was just so fun! For what its worth Picard has an excellent cast, male and female, it just feels they are one or two notches above their discovery peers, maybe again due to writing/direction. After his first episode or two, I was done with Barclay and was frustrated when he came back, and especially when he showed up on Voyager. I define me. He was competing in show jumping events with his horses until at least his 70s. Mary Wiseman: I wish there maybe in the future theres room for some protective best friend/boyfriend energy. For more info or tickets visit the Lincoln Center Theater site. In fact, thats all the Discovery crew is qualified as in the 32nd century. When Mary Wiseman's Lt. Sylvia Tilly left the USS Discovery for a job at the new Starfleet Academy in the fourth episode of season four, it was promised she would be back. I think Saru holds out as being the most consistent, and Tilly is close, but not quite. I truly do love this show, but Burnham and Tilly are so damn annoying. And we saw the results of all that. I think Mary is doing a fantastic job as isSonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. Overcome her issues. Eh, only in some particular parts of the internet. The very basis of Star Trek is in direct conflict with people like that. But I have to say, when they named her Killy, it made the already off-kilter character even more ridiculous. This time, even if I wanted that, my body said: no were going to take some time here, we need to heal. And so, I find myself in this bigger, fuller body and it made me appreciate where I was before. Im glad you figured out what works for you, but Im not cool with a Star Trek board in 2021 focusing on an actors weight or appearance, especially when its a man commenting on a womans weight. In fact, at least on this website, I often see the contrary. Keep up the great work ladies! The increasingly repeated notion that Discovery has saved the Trek franchise with emotion and humanity is dubious revisionist history. In a Paramount+ featurette (which you can see below) about the making of the episode, Wiseman talks about how Tilly has changed: Coming back for the finale was really exciting for me because she comes back in this fully black Starfleet suit. Its her, Adira, Stamets, and Reno who are the really hard science people. I find her character interesting, but inconsistent. Disco has a lot of problems storywise But not her looks! Find more stories on theStar Trek Universe. The show had its official opening on Monday, March 21st, and is currently set to run through April 24. I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is. Anyway, another Discovery-ism, amongst the many other weird decisions on this show. Troi made explicit the evil intent lies we tell each other and ourselves to gain selfish material and political advantage. Have to disagree. Btw have you come across any good DS9 books about what happened to Sisko or the rest of the crew after the finale? Shes changed. So smart in the Starfleet tradition. If we dont have tolerance and respect, how are we able to learn and improve humanity!? Its intolerance in its most basic form, and anyone who engages in, advocates for, or turns a blind eye and deaf ear to it are examples of the worst humanity has to offer, and most certainly have no business calling themselves a Star Trek fan. Mary Wiseman has established herself as a talented actor on Star Trek: Discovery. Right! I see them as similar. Ichebs torture on Picard was horrible and the eating ganglia in S1, yikes! Regarding fans, tons of them love Tilly. I agree with you on principle as far at this being fine on a fictional Star Trek show. Since season one, Tilly (Mary Wiseman). I would just be happy if Rhys got more than three lines an episode lol. Obligatory mention of the stupid turbolifts and how dumb they are. . I think that in a world thats so repressed and violent, violence becomes these peoples only outlet for pleasure and release. I always have to correct it, so its not terribly efficient. Discovery may have just said goodbye to one of its crew, but don't worry: She'll be back. Imo, this show tries so overly hard to be socially progressive, its the very thing that makes it a turn-off. Tilly should have been introduced as female Barclay or a less extreme version of junior lieutenant Picard in Tapestry (the alternate timeline where his career stalled after avoiding getting stabbed in the heart). I understand the actress is very well-respected and a nice person, but I couldnt stand the Tilly character myself. Good for Mary! I think the character would have been much better served if Tillys quirks were something that changed as the character grew over the seasons. Perhaps they had a second or third language that they use regularly. Weve seen Captain Killy, so what does Mirror Universe Book look like? Because Book is someone who doesnt just have cerebral, intellectual intelligence. My lady, you are so fine that I want to have your baby. I lovvvve Lilly/Tilly and her curves. She went away and supposedly became an amazing well rounded person. The only writers they need are people who can polish it up enough so that you cant tell its machine-written. In general, the Litverse kicks off with the TNG A Time to series that fills in events between the movies Insurrection and Nemesis. Saying that its the job of actors to tell people whats healthy and whats not is the problem, not a solution. Its could have (or couldve). Thats not good writing, its oandering fan fiction, Starfleet is not military. We have both Mary Wiseman and Sonequa Martin-Green talking about body issues, Kate Mulgrew jumping in too, and some more behind-the-scenes photos. But because of Discovery we have Lower Decks, Picard, Prodigy, Strange New Worlds, Short Treks, possibly Section 31 and the Academy show. Along with this, the biggest thing that Michael aided Tilly with was her confidence. Just take a little trip down the hellhole that is a tabloids message boards and youll see the kind of body shaming of male and female actors and celebrities that exists out there. Star Trek: Discoverystreams exclusively onParamount+in the U.S. Sisko on the other hand. It took this for me to finally accept who I am. Do I want to be Barclay or Harry Kim? However, I do struggle with popular media normalizing unhealthy weights whether over or underweight because they are health risks. None of us are and its okay. Try the Daily Mail for 5 minutes. advantage. As an officer shes supposed to be leader. Its not celebrating obesity to say that her body is her business and nobody elses. She gets up in the morning and lives with a purpose, helping her crewmates, and ready to make the ultimate sacrifice if necessary. Mary Wiseman: That that could be a very powerful person in the Mirror Universe. Speaking to Glamour UK, Sonequa Martin-Green revealed that she has dealt with body image issues too: Back in the mid-to-late eighties, early nineties, everything I saw, with hip hop, was all curvy, curvy, big butt, she recalls. For your own good, please seek help. Every Thursday night I yell Black Alert to let everyone know Im watching Star Trek. We have no information that Beyer consults in this show. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. I gave this dumpster fire of far left propaganda 4 seasons. Just grow up and ignore the random internet comments you are elevating the drama of this internet troll thing by talking about it. Jack perhaps you were at the Dave Chappelle protest screaming Judas, you are starting to sound like the type who gets sensitive over everything. But one could argue a ship full of Barclays is not the most convincing portrait of humanity. She wrote ten books based around this concept and still writing them. Its 2020 and were taking any more of your sh!t. Tilly is a wonderful incarnation of our inner geekdom, a person you would find at conventions or in fanfiction I love this character so much because she isnt perfect. Star Trek is supposed to be socially progressive but this show went too far. All you ever do on this board is show up and attack womxn for being womxn, LBGTQ+ for being LBGTQ+, people of color for being people of color. I can see myself having a few bottles of synthehol with him. Make it make sense! Against all odds, shes in Starfleet and thriving. Probably some admirals cousin. Age is affecting my memory haha. Remember , they had steroids and thyroid problems in the 80's, but the majority of people were off normal weight, which today would be called skinny. I guess making Tilly first officer isnt anywhere close to ridiculous as making KT Kirk a Captain who was still a cadet and had probably spent 2 weeks in space before he got the jobbut its pretty damn close. Mary Wiseman is a beautiful lady as is Sonequa Martin-Green. Its so brutal. In CanadaDiscoveryis broadcast on CTV Sci-Fi Channel and streams on Crave. You always come up with weird posts VS this one is weirder than usual Im afraid to say. And it all happened OFF SCREEN! As far as science fiction most Trek shows have normal looking ppl. 42 comments so far. After Burnham (Sonequa Martin-Green) and Tilly (Mary Wiseman) journey to a planet alongside Burnham's mother Gabrielle (Sonja Sohn), things get a little hairy when the Qowat Milat nun they're . I dont love her the way I love Saru or Pike, or Janeway or Seven or Picard or Spock. Its a problem in even some least developed countries now. Promoting her to the first officer was stupid enough, but now shes leading at the Academy? Mary's fans are curious to know if she is indeed expecting a little one but the rumors are false. I have this image in my head of the EPs saying to Mack that theyd like species that havent been main characters in other shows and asking him to give a list of options for a big and strong species, a species without a bianary gender etc. Took time to reset the franchise. Right!? Book is Han Solo. During the 1st season, Michael helped Tilly to gain confidence and then continued to nurture that confidence through . The Delta Quadrant is a dangerous place, and the remnants of species and societies that survived around the edges of the Borg network and incursions were harsh and justifiably skeptical of the Federations. No one of my Trekkie friends, growing up with TNG watch this anymore. I think others that make such claims are having their own feel feels hurt or nostalgia rattled. This post (handouts bad habits yada yada yada) is your latest misogny, homophobia and white supremacy , and I am sick and tired of it. Fans need to stop being rude and act like gentlemen for once. Background information. The doctor was usually the therapist. Like her prime universe counterpart, Tilly was portrayed by Mary Wiseman.. Tilly was presumably killed when the Discovery was destroyed in the prime universe.. Apocrypha. She is a real girl. Her empathic abilities work via viewscreens? It was so fun. | December 23, 2020 | Tilly is justannoying. Sincerely, obesity is defined in terms of the proportion of body fat associated higher risk of illness. Tillys anxiety got old real fast. If there had been a believable logical progression from Cadet Tilly in season 1 to Starfleet Academy instructor in season 4, where they had built up the character to where she shed bits and pieces of the awkwardness as she became more confident in her abilities. I like Tilly but shes not my favourite character. She isnt back on Discovery. He also has emotional intelligence. Let it die. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. Where did all the good writers go?? I even got a t-shirt that says DISCO on it, which prompts inquiries about my musical tastes of past decades when I was a twenty-something, lol. So many reasons to be critical of Disco plot holes, awful sense of morals, missed opportunities, etc. It's mostly the super-hero genre where you see this. Im not the idiot fringe but her weight is none of our business (and, also, she had a baby before S3, I believe). And if youre able to use that against someone, that could be very, very dangerous. The moment they decided to incorporate a new character with basically the same characteristics (a young, socially awkward, but very smart ensign) they ruined Tilly. In every real-life Trekkie community Im a part of, as well as most online, shes loved. 89. Thats the thing about DSC. Theres a little Harley Quinn. Shes magnetic. Shes one of the shows most divisive characters. Assuming you are American, Im from outside America where it makes a huge difference in how the characters comes across.America is not the world as Morrissey once said. And Books starshipthink of it as Star Treks answer to the Astro Megaship from Power Rangers in Space. It was a novelty in his first story and they turned it on its head when he got zapped and made super-smart, but most of the time hes very trying, especially when he gets thrown onto Voyager. (But then she has always reminded me, her looks and bubbliness, of my cousin who just so happens to be a wonderful teacher. Im reaally hoping season 4 will be smoother, Im holding thumbs here. This is not a good show and not a good Star Trek Show too. You mentioned that the rest of world laughs at America because of obesity. All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. You either think about what you can contribute to society or how society owes you handouts, respect for above-mentioned bad habits, fictitious pronouns even. And saying they should be sending this message is just another way to try to bully someone into doing what you want, not what that person wants for their self. Plenty of curvy ladies are quite healthy and active. That was always the theory I had for Barclay. Contents 1 Early life 2 Starfleet career 2.1 USS Discovery 2.1.1 The war 2.1.2 Post-war 2.1.3 32nd century 3 Personal relationships 3.1 Friendships I notice that for whatever reason certain words will trigger the language to switch to French on my phone, and then I have to go back and correct everything. But the nu left that this show panders to cant accept any opinion that isnt in agreement with it so they try to immediately invalidate it. It was a good perspective in S1, and lines up with Star Trek values. You cant be a Star Trek fan and also be a racist or a body shamer. There are a number of places you can receive professional help and I strongly recommend you seek that help. It just came to me and wanted your opinion. That was why she was never in uniform the first few seasons. There are still things that bother me about the new trek too. She also revealed some of her inspirations for this version of Tilly: There is a little Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender in there. I thought her arc was going to end with her being booted from the service for repeatedly failing physical fitness tests? Its far from just the United States or even just affluent countries. So her appearances ended up not being 100% awful. Its shall we say very variable. Sonequa Martin-Green in Unification III, Co-showrunner Michelle Paradise shared some behind-the-scenes photos from Terra Firma, Part 2.. However, the problem with Tilly (and this really is more of a Star Trek Discovery problem because it exists with every character they do this to) is that she never made strides or attempts to improve. Just underused. I know most dont share my opinon that after a terrible first half of S1, I have generally liked Discovery but making Tilly first officer was quite possibly the most ridiculous plot twist in the history of Trek. I hope that Wiseman uses that info into the future because it does work for fat burning and muscle building.. :P (I know the whole thing of having a *ships* councilor is inherently different from what real therapists do on dry land, but yeah its super weird. Body shaming is wrong and immature. When all evidence points to her character not being loved or even liked (the actress is fine; shes been poorly handled by the writers (Michelle Paradise). This week's episode raised concerns. Im sorry if the idea of someone not like Discovery upsets you, but its unreasonable to expect people to change their minds for that reason. This is a part of the reason people cant take to them, alongside their poorly written characters. As you put it: I love how Disco has put the human back into the human experience. And I agree wholeheartedly. Yes, she was a therapist that say patients in her office but her betazoid abilities aided Picard. Too nervous and anxious. It was EXACTLY what I needed while mourning my own mother. Oh, I think its fine they had a counselor on the SHIP; I just think its weird they had her on the BRIDGE. Im not counting on it. Every woman is very beautiful. Also the writers, Erika Lipoldt and Bo Yeon Kim. Stupid decision to bring her back. I absolutely love Tilly/Killy. Overall, I like the fun character of Tilly (too bad the writers room made her first officer). It always cracks me up when people say that they hate Tilly. Internationally, the series is available on Paramount+ in Australia, Latin America and the Nordics, and on Pluto TV in Austria, France, Germany . That way she wont get the appearance she does now of jumping over more experienced officers and seeming to just get ahead because shes Sarus favorite. Star Trek: Discovery threw a shocker into its latest episode as Lieutenant Sylvia Tilly decided to leave the Discovery crew. BTW, I know this is waaaaaay off topic, but since you are the literary Trek lover on this site and keep up with a lot of the books, do you think Prodigy is going to use some of Kirsten Beyers Full Circle Voyager story lines? The character. (80's for ya) Harry wasnt annoying watching him was just sad :-D. Im glad for you that you didnt find him annoying. It explains why each scene is half-redundant and half-contradictory with the others within the same episode. Finally, actress Rekha Sharma shared this fun behind-the-scenes photo with Doug Jones and David Benjamin Tomlinson, where she lamented Landry being killed off yet again. Two Kelpians and a Disco Kenny (Zero Kelpians were harmed during this shoot. I found him quite annoying, myself. 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Weight gain from thyroid issues, anti depressants, steroids, is a fairly small percent of the population. I think Saru will just be the surrogate first officer again although he is now a captain. In season three Tilly was first officer and then acting captain; how does all of that affect who she is in season four? She opted that she had a different calling within the world of teaching and, in the end, she decided that she wanted to chase that feeling. Youre saying she isnt believeable because she sounds like she has a 21st century *accent*? Im relieved to say I have no idea how that feels, and its something I cant even stomach thinking about, frankly. Sonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. Where I live people compete on the merits. Its been a continuing book series since 2009 and still going. Thanks for the correction and yes that is correct. The future doesnt have a preferred accent. It really doesnt fit in the century they are in. That is definitely not a true statement. My suspicion is they farm this out to sweatshops somewhere in Asia. I wonder if there is any news that she might be pregnant. Shes loved. Not everyone is skinny and not everyone likes skinny. Heaven forefend women feel good about themselves! If you cant deal with the idea of conflicting opinions then I really dont think you should be online at the moment. No one can argue that Shatner is anything less than fit at whatever age. Great interview, Dawn. Thanks for the heads up about Beyer and the Voyager books. Whether you choose to believe it or not, youre actually part of the problem. Yes I forgot David Mack is a consultant on this show too and is well aware of all the post-Nemesis stories in the novels.
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