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This is a particularly great idea. The reason was that there wasnt anything between the hammer and either the nipple or the primer of the cartridge. The Baltimore Police Department, Los Angeles Police Department, Miami Police Department, and Maryland State Police are all known to utilize the Glock handgun. Folks need to do what they are comfortable with though. The initial pull of this trigger performs generally the same function as the thumb safety of a 1911 or single action. No, but it requires that everything go right when theres a higher chance of something going wrong. But people *MODIFY* (for chrissake) their Glocks trying to make the trigger compete with a 1911, then wonder why they shot their foot off. They make it look soooo easy in the movies! Glocks are awesome little handguns. However, there still isnt a compelling reason to carry a gun or keeping one for home defense that isnt loaded which cant be gotten around with a bit of training, a bit of brains, or a bit of extra gear. She now after many painful operations will be a partial cripple for the rest of her life. Carrying a Glock 26 or 27 in "conditon 1" (chambered) is comparable to carrying a loaded S&W Jframe revolver. I assume the manual safety was also engaged, but such a strap on the holster sounds pretty good, as well! Is really shouldnt be that hard. I have no issue using any of my Glocks as a SD gun, nor do I have any issue using any of my 1911s, any of my revolvers, or any of my other guns. B.D. Because criminals dont follow laws, and as long as you stay off the radar, nobody is checking your gun. #5. When all else fails eat a mucho big bowl of butter beans and a hand full of BBs that should put a whole new meaning to Kiss my a$$. I dont condemn those who carry a striker with one in the chamber. So F_____g what? We are compensated for referring traffic and business to Amazon and other companies linked to on this site. This makes it about five ounces lighter than another popular 9mm Luger gun, the Glock 19. Its interesting to note that Massoud Ayoob reported that when one Police Department got fed up with all the accidental discharges with Glocks and went over to a double action only auto that accidental discharges dropped to almost zero. If thats a problem, dont carry a firearm. No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. Old school, extract, thumb, trigger finger, rinse n repeat often until autopilot takes over. It will go off. I dont believe anyone has the right to keep me from holding, using and appreciating these art forms. There we go. Bet you still get stabbed. Note the flat(ish) hammer. . Knowing how impossible that is, Im NOT one of those. The idea is that a gun with cartridges in it but not having one in the chamber is close to being loaded and is therefore better than a completely unloaded gun. That scenario is at least as plausible as a robbery. What I want then is a big bang noise when I pull the trigger, and not much else. Been reading the thread here on this topic, since we all have an O I quite agree with your spot on comment Sir. I know some people , maybe most people , will be just fine carrying a Glock with a loaded chamber , but all the reasons people give for not are not 100% wrong either . However, that also creates issues. That was back in the 1970s somewhere. I used to carry a Walther PPQ. Ever have your computer go slow for a second, but then it opens two(or more) of whatever you clicked on? Glocks are completely safe handguns even though they dont have external safety. To chamber or not to chamber? Good username though. That may be true but it is also irrelevant, since the *actual* cause of the negligent discharge is*negligence. Since its a bookmark and not a save, it will go there and update to the latest info. The anti-GLOCK crowd and they are nothing if not noisy also raised the objection that since a striker-fired pistol is so easy to discharge (a simple pull of a relatively light trigger) then its inherently dangerous to have those guns in a home with small children. Or would it it take more movement of the slide to do that before an impact could trigger potential discharge? Same mental disability, but different symptoms. To fire the pistol, the trigger safety and the trigger itself must be deliberately depressed at the same time. While holstering, train yourself to make damn sure theres nothing in the way. Barrel: 4.5. In practice? 30 years carrying, 20 in the military with 6 combat deployments. Between the trigger safety, the firing pin safety and the drop safety I feel very comfortable carrying it chambered. (just like some people freakout about a cocked and locked 1911) Rest assured the gun will not go off and shoot you in the ass. YouTube it. The fix was to add a safety. In order to fire, the pin needs to be hit hard enough to continue forward, past the point of contact with the hammer, and then into the primer. The most obvious one is we have an external safety. The odds of a holster obstruction triggering a Glock in that case is an acceptable risk due to the greater risk of being too slow. Im still getting comfortable with carrying, and Ill take an unchambered gun over one at home in the safe any day. always, just got the g23 and after the range it'll be in the rotation with the sigs. Break into my house and well see how seriously you take a couple .44 mag slugs to the chest. In fact, Ill prove it. You may need your weak side arm to hold an attacker at bay while you draw, etc. Considering the capabilities of the average glock owner, in front of the muzzle is likely the safest place to be. Some of the biggest mistakes happen when training at sex. All that said, training, knowledge of your firearms design/function, and practice go a long way to make any firearm safe to carry with a round chambered though some designs are better for a particular purpose. A forum community dedicated to Glock Pistol owners and enthusiasts. Maybe. They are all single-action guns even if the marketing guys play games saying they are 1.5-action or whatever. Old model Ruger Blackhawks which have not been converted should be carried with the hammer down on an empty chamber, just like Colt SAAs and other vintage and replica SA revolvers. Big thing, its hammer fired and its also DA/SA, so I have no problem with chambering a round and lowering the hammer. Seattle is like a miniature version from a driving perspective. A GLOCK is a striker fired pistol with about a 5.5-pound OEM trigger pull that has incorporated into the trigger--in the form of a lever--and when it is engaged blocks the trigger from moving rearward. If you want a common username better grab it quick though. One was carrying a single action revolver without a transfer bar safety in a holster, and one under the hammer. It comes down to your comfort, training and repetitive use. I carry a Glock 21 with a round in the chamber I constantly handle the gun to keep excellent muscle memory if you dont want to have the gun fire dont touch trigger. We can talk about home carry vs guns hidden in various locarions in the house. Best thing you can do is buy a pistol that you can safely carry loaded with one in the chamber. Glock is known for its proprietary barrel design which is said to provide a better seal between the bullet and barrel, allowing less propellant gas leakage and less bullet deformation. Personally I dont just carry for my own personal defense, but also the defense of my country, my comrades and other citizens. If my gun lands at my childs feet, an empty chamber leaves plenty of time to prevent a tragedy, but a chambered striker-fired gun may not. That is a good point that I have never heard before. I think the Glock leg argument is kinda straying off into another argument, that could be a good idea for its own article. and so as to keep continuity in their mindset they keep that same gun on the headboard at night with no round in the chamber so that there wont be any confusion Hire someone who did it on other blogs. I do not carry a Glock and sorry 1911 fanatics I would only carry a 1911 with the hammer down (series 80) and chamber empty with a Series 70 and since I do not like to carry any gun with the chamber empty that is why I do not carry any longer my series 70 and pre-series 70 (original 1911) . you would do well to keep in mind that some people dont carry with a round in the chamber not because theyre so afraid or lack of training but because simply of where they live and the laws that exist there if they did they would be constantly administratively chambering and unchambering a round throughout their day while doing so in their vehicle Am I being silly? Kind of like Youtube is determined to censor everything but SJWs and cat videos. I do carry that way, however, with my 1911. Prices accurate at time of writing. about carrying or keeping a gun with a round in the chamber. The claim is that because Glocks have no safety and a super light trigger, they accidentally shoot people. That connected to the trigger, which only dropped out of the way when the trigger was fully pressed. We were assured that; were working on it. I was shown( Thank You RES), yank that sucker out, moveaim, fire. On Firefox for Windows, it just goes to the top of the page, but it will still get the newest comments. What an idiot libtard if you have a gun you get good at handling it stay with your BB gun, Mad says, What an idiot libtard if you have a gun you get good at handling it stay with your BB gun. All it takes is knowing what the word; inertia means. Subscribe and receive the latest information on GLOCK products and more. Safe wise, I like the Homak #584 4 digit/code safe. Clearly not enough to train for scenarios where chambering a round can be life or death. Does the gun have a firing block mechanism. Keep your finger off of it and your should be good to go. The chamber under the hammer of any carried revolver is *irrelevant* for the first shot, since cocking the hammer of an SA or pulling the trigger on a DA advances the next chamber to the firing position. Good on you guys for responding here. And make sure when you holster or unholster that the holster is clear of obstructions. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Back in the old days of guns, they didnt really have any safety at all. Stop buying Glocks. I lost a whitetail in heavy cover to the click when the safety is released. I learned to drive on the streets of San Francisco with a van as a teenager when my mom wanted me to drive her around. so the theory still stands, if you dont want a negligent discharge, dont be negligent. But, on the bright side, ammoland just revamped their comment section so comments now dont take days/never to show up. And it will ALWAYS stay in its holster right? Perhaps if someone drops their gun from two stories up and it lands muzzle down on somebodys head? the safety doesnt enter into it. The firearm entered Austrian military and police service by 1982 after becoming the top performer in reliability and safety tests.. Glock pistols have become the company's most profitable line of products, and have been supplied to . Its kind of unneeded though, because inertial firing pins can only build firing inertia on their own if the whole gun accelerates, and then stops suddenly. Perfect for everyday carry, the compact Glock 43 is a popular concealed carry option chambered in 9mm. The Israelis do it, and I do too. I could give you many other identical examples of Glocks going off while the owner wore them or handled them. Police departments across the country mocked the NYPD for their accusations and understood that its both trigger happy officers and training issues that lead to problems like that.Glocks two-part trigger is one piece of their internal safety features. I also like the guy getting thrown across the ally when he gets hit with both barrels of the shotgun through those 3/4 boards, but even better is when the same happens from a .45 Colt round. Granted, is loading a pistol, a shotgun or a rifle the most complicated thing in the world? Wonder why guns are the most logical option? However, it is not unusual for some new to guns like Glocks to be concerned about carrying a round chambered. Over at gunssavelives.net, Dan Cannon has unearthed the SAFE-DRAW system for GLOCK brand GLOCK pistols.SAFE-DRAW gives the Austrian-born pistol an initial 17 pound trigger pull. I have been a revolver guy my whole life, and just switched to a Glock 19 after getting two days of excellent training and realizing I could shoot the Glock better (to say nothing of more copiously) than my old Detective Special. It could easily tuck into a nightstand safe or tossed into a range bag. Its just not for me, especially as I get into my golden years. Those who scream that everybody who doesnt think exactly like them, pick the same options as them, etc., are dumb for not recognizing that they are perfection itself, are just more of the loads of SJW types out for attention by putting everything and everybody down, to make themselves feel a bit better about not having a life. Sounds a lot like a problem created by attorneys to have something to sue over, doesnt it? The SAA was designed to be carried fully loaded with the hammer back on the first notch. Is it just something one has to get used to? In the case of a fast draw in a conflict, you dont have time to check, but you still have time to keep your finger out of the trigger guard. The off hand comment was to the effect of glocks being less safe to carry with a round in the chamber than others. All that said, training, knowledge of your firearm's design/function, and practice go a long way to make any firearm safe to carry with a round chambered though some designs are better for a particular purpose. Each new design improved the handgun and its features. Even my beloved Browning High Powers (all 6 f them) gave me fits until I found some expanding ammo that would work reliably in them. If you don't just pick ONE, then IMO you are always going to wonder if you're chambered or no. At least the DA/SA or DAO provide a long hard trigger pull. 1) either way you do it it takes Training, 2) ya silly ass might forget to flip the safety an fire so there is you 3 seconds, 3) the bullet may not fire, in which case you have to chamber anyway. Because there are a lot of areas where carrying a firearm will bite you if you cant get it right. But Knute is fine, and nobody else seems to want it. The Glock is a semi-automatic pistol that was originally designed by an Austrian manufacturer called Glock Ges.m.b.H in 1982. And so it is when carrying a Glock as well. Ron DeSantis Says He Supports Adding Open Carry to Floridas Permitless Carry Bill, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-truth-about-6-5mm-ammo/, https://patents.google.com/patent/US5724759A/en, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p28yT3Z3oj8&t=7347s. When the fight starts, ejecting a live round onto the ground, or hearing the click of a empty chamber, will just mess up your day, maybe your last day. At Incognito Concealment, we're confident we have the right holster for you. U.S. Time waits for no man, and neither do bad guys. It was called Fractured Fairy Tales, The difference between you and me is I am real you live in a virtual reality world oh and btw dummy they dont call it Glock perfection for nothing, Your rants always remind me of that long ago cartoon show. Answer (1 of 104): For me. I dont have to hit a bypass cause its cocked, or turn off a safety, just pump and fire. Heres a news flash, ever since Adam and Eve ate the serpents apple were all fallible. Again, though, training is the answer. It has a safety, but I dont really care about that. Mr. Hoober, the only quibble I have with this article is the assumption that people only have a (as in singular) home defense gun. If a person was going to leave a gun in Condition 3, they had better practice loading and firing the pistol, because not doing so just might get them killed. I cant believe this is even a subject for discussion. (AgCatJHS at English Wikipedia [Public domain], via Wikimedia Commons)Here we have a conundrum. So when do you get to be a klutz if youve taken the time to train those reactions until as the experts say you not only get it right, you cant get it wrong? , I never said I dont make mistakes I just never have with a gun hurt your feelings knute man up and get over it, Look what I found: The priming compound could care less WHAT hits it, so long as the blow has sufficient energy to activate the explosive charge in the primer, it will detonate. Since the pin must have considerable energy to fire the primer charge, and then must expend that energy quickly through a sudden stop, it really doesnt matter, because the available object to provide the sudden deceleration needed to drive the pin into the round is almost certainly going to be the ground, and the round must be in line with the inertia, which, if provided by gravity instead of the firearm itself, must be downwards. An old retired civil servant who used to clean toilets in a federal building living off a small pension and social security. I carry one in the chamber of my ruger P89 with 17 rounds in the magazine. I got them after watching the best experts I know of, champions, and their green light review. And an unloaded weapon does you no good if/when you need it. And unlike Mad, I DO make mistakes. What Glock Is Most Used By Law Enforcement; Who Makes The Glock 22 If you liked this article, you might be interested in one I wrote all about Glocks Safe Action System. Even though they dont have safety, Glocks are not prone to negligent discharge and are completely safe to carry when done properly. Quick easy to access and small enough for the P365, a spare magazine, and a small 300 Lumen Tac Light. The LC9s can not be fired in any other way accidently unless the trigger is deliberately pulled. Smh. And I include all the copy cat weapons as well as they are as common as the common cold. A 16 year old In drivers ed may not be very experienced nor skilled, but at least in my day, was paying more attention than a driver more familiar with driving. I'd recommend a Hard Kydex holster like a comp-tac infidel. Glock 17. Practice holstering and unholstering without a round and see if the trigger is pulled. The NYPD used this excuse several times to get out of a situation, basically saying These new-fangled Glocks just go off on their own. There is no doubt about it. I left it in my series 80, but a gunsmith can easily remove it if desired. the number of people out there who keep a single-action revolver as a home defense. I still get the occasional email notification. to all you sanctimonious what iffers and self styled know it alls out there: KAER adhere to the business philosophy of customer first, service first, quality first, and provide our customers with high-quality products and perfect service.. We are a professional manufacturer dedicated to the production of gun safes, safe box, pistol safe and other security products. Your taste is in your ass., Your brains (what little you have) are in your ass. Mar 8, 2017 (Edited by Moderator) The LCP II is just as safe to carry as any striker-fired gun on the market without a thumb safety, including every Glock and most M&P's etc. I could carry Israeli style, I suppose, and draw-and-rack if it comes to that, but I just saw a training video in which a woman carrying Israeli style would have been killed by a knife had the attack been real. If you are so uncomfortable with a Glock as a fully loaded and chambered self defense gun, why do you own one? Its funny how a pimp like VLAD TEPES is accepted and sometimes glorified for his rhetoric of cut and paste (fake news) values but a person who simply chooses a different way of carrying is villified and demonized by those who scream for personal freedom.
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